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Reflections on Guyanese Eating


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Since R (sister, the elder) and G (brother in law) returned to Guyana in time for Ramadan, I had the opportunity to go places to break the fast, since Ramadan is a time for feeding people, you can always bring along an extra person. When we broke fast in mosques, whether they were in the city area or across the river in the country, everything is just a reminder of the past. Like enamel cups.Enamel nostalgia Apparently in Guyana there are no worries about lead or whatever that can seep into your food from beneath the enamel layer. The first mosque I went for Iftar (breaking of the fast) in Ogle, I had a serious flashback to the old days in Cottage (homeland village), where the only thing you ever used, good for hot and cold, drinks and soups, were enamel cups. But that was nothing compared to the Iftar in G’s home village. I have to admit to some jaw-dropping when the cups came out – so many, I swear they had hundreds for the masses. And so many to wash!! That’s why paper, plastic and styrofoam were invented, people!! (Yes I know, concern for the environment and all, but we have to conserve water and detergent too).

But it was nostalgic, certainly, the enamel mugs and the glass bowl-plates, filled with steaming rice and hot hot hot dhal. Fingers only of course. Which is fine by me, I was brought up right, even though we have drawers full of cutlery in our mosque back home. I can eat anything with my fingers. However, I do have to admit that maybe, just maybe, my fingers have been a little spoiled. Perhaps they are not exactly insensitive to the heat of food fresh from the fire. I didn’t spill anything, I didn’t yelp in pain or anything, but – note to self – next time volunteer to serve food with the other women (yes, here men do not really serve food, a practice which exists in Trinidad, certainly, but not in Cottage, not when the Imam has 3 daughters and has to go home to my mother) and then by the time I eat, I may actually be able to spend more time eating and less time nursing my red fingertips, which can possibly make one look like a tourist. Not that I looked like a tourist. Well maybe a tourist, since everyone knows everyone there, but I didn’t look incapable of fitting in, I hide my foibles well in large crowds. And I did NOT get the dreaded “you want a spoon?”.

There were even some traditions that I am too young to remember being used in Trinidad – fireside cooking, for example which only happens back home when you have a river lime (despite the name, this can take place by the side of any body of water – a puddle by the side of the cane field if it’s a particularly severe dry season or you’re not really allowed to go to the river without adults (where you gather to cook pelau or curry duck) and even then, they may use a ring stove with gas, if the “river” is within easy reach of a car. Some people (like us) still have a chulha, or clay fireside, but if other people are like us, the last time we used it was for lamb kebabs a few years ago, when Dad wasn’t there and we didn’t want to mess around with large amounts of coal for the bbq grill.

Guyanese masjid cookingBut back to Guyana, there in the mosques, when preparing for Iftar, will always be a row of these firesides. Now, I don’t think that “fireside” is what you imagine it to be…and in any event I am using the term we use in Trinidad. Imagine a metal cylinder (old, heavy and rusted from age) with an opening on the bottom of one side where the wood goes in. The pot (here it is called “karahi”) is heavy cast iron, sometimes 2′ in diameter at the top requiring 2 people (enter the men) to lift it using elongated metal hooks. It sits on top of the fireside and you turn it with long wooden paddles, or really really big pot spoons. We use those huge pots but not being a land of wood and water, we use big heavy gas-rings. I wanted to take a picture of the firesides, but I didn’t want to draw attention – when I was taking pictures of the pepperpot at an Iftar by someone’s house, her son ran over and insisted he could hold the camera, he’d washed his hands, really just give it to him, he wanted to put his fingers all over the screen and lens, come on, please. My picture of the quintessential Guyanese dish is therefore not quite in focus.

Despite having large rivers (Trinidad can fit in that one, remember!) and huge enamel cups and pots and the ability to consume enormous amounts of rice, the Guyanese disappoint when it comes to roti. They make these individual size rotis, no matter what the occasion. No bigger than the ones I used to make in Edinburgh, using a skillet or griddle. Why? For someone who grew up going to functions and weddings in the village, or elsewhere, and seeing the men and women (making wedding roti seems to be peculiarly more male than female, the only thing my grandfather could cook and was in charge of every Eid, was a sweet requiring hot paratha). They roll out the rotis (whether dhalpuri or paratha) on tables and put them on tawahs that can be more than 3 feet in diameter. THAT is making roti. But no, I now live in a foreign country. I brought my own regular sized tawah (big enough) – R says the Guyanese laugh at her large family sized one. One wonders if they faint when they see our mosque/temple and village sized ones. Unfortunately, small roti means small rolling pins (bailna) so although I said I’d buy wooden items in the land of wood, I am regretting that decision now. You live and learn.

Seasonings are different here too. For starters, you can’t serve food without having the bottle of ketchup. Even in the restaurants and hotels, they’ll have the bowl of ketchup out. I know Trinis eat pizza with ketchup, but it is tomato-based, there is a logical connection, really. They eat it with rice. No Trini dish would be complete without chadon beni (bandania – tastes like coriander, possibly called Mexican cilantro). They don’t use it here. They don’t even have it. Savages. Cool thing R and I discovered though. We needed a herb similar to mint for Eid, that R had seen in the market, but she never remembered the name.

Bourda Market at NightWe went to the market in Bourda (night market during blackout – fun)Bourda Market at night and G asked for what sounded like mariampo. So we thought, ok we’d try to remember the name. However, during a futile search for plain yoghurt and rose water in the supermarket the next day, we happened upon locally packaged Dried Sweet Basil, otherwise called “Married Man’s Pork”. Apparently strange names are not the sole purview of Trinidad and Tobago. Wonder what the single man’s pork is seasoned with.

One thing I am sure of, there are more culinary adventures on the way. Can’t promise that the quality or variety will be that great. I think the main problem is, many foods are very similar to Trinidad’s but they’re not quite the same, and that’s the rub, as it were. The difference makes it worse no matter what, when I compare. Guyanese just won’t be able to win this one. No one comes to Guyana for the food (except for the pepperpot), they come for gold and diamonds (I may have mentioned this).

That’s why I have a fully stocked kitchen, straight from T&T.

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43 Comments so far (Add 1 more)

  1. Oh, and our grandfather used to help serve out the food for Iftar…:-D

    1. Lilandra, Empress of Chocolate on July 8th, 2006 at 7:08 pm
  2. Single man’s pork.. lol… that just sounds wrong

    2. The TriniGourmet on December 19th, 2006 at 1:24 pm
  3. Hi, I’m so glad I stumbled on your blog. I’m Guyanese and can definitely relate to your posts.

    4. Shelliza on January 1st, 2007 at 5:01 pm
  4. welcome :-) glad you stopped by!

    5. chennette on January 1st, 2007 at 6:11 pm
  5. You know one of the things that really gets me ticked off about Trinis especially at it relates to Guyana and anything Indian, especially where the food is concerned? It is that you all feel that you do everything better than everyone; you all know better than anyone and Trinidad is the only place in the Caribbean where there is authenticity. It just smacks of insular arrogance.

    6. Cynthia on January 7th, 2007 at 2:08 pm
  6. Cynthia, I am sorry if you are upset, but this is nothing more than a commentary from a Trini moving into Guyana for the first time and being a bit homesick for the familiar. I make if clear that I am Trini, so it’s a bit obvious that I would be more familiar with Trini food. It may not be fair or totally complimentary, but it wasn’t meant to be mean or really serious, for that matter.

    If you read any of my other posts, you’ll see that I recognise that Trini food and ways are authentically TRINI, and nothing more. Not better or more “Indian” or more “Caribbean” than anyone else’s. True, this post says I like Trini food more than Guyanese but so what? And Trinis may not be the only ones who are nationalistic about their food. As a Trini living in Guyana, I have heard a lot about how we don’t do things the right way, or call things by the right name, but again, so what? I am not reluctant to try the food, but I have faced a lot of people who are very vocal to the point of being impolite in their consideration of differences in food. I am not branding the whole country with insular arrogance, however.

    In food, there is no right way or right name; there’s just what is, and individual preferences. I like a lot of things about Guyanese food. I like cookup even though it’s not brown. I like solara even though we call them coconut turnovers. I can’t get used to the extremely sour mango used in fish curry – but don’t kill me over personal taste! I do know that ketchup, mayonnaise and mustard on pizza are BIZARRE, but it is a Trini thing. I am certainly not advocating taking over the Caribbean with that!

    7. chennette on January 7th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
  7. Thanks for your response and I totally agree with you that food is an individual thing and comes from one’s own preference and tastes. As a budding food writer, I know that very well. I think what I took offence to most was what you said about no one coming to Guyana for the food. I guess I am feeling a little “sensitive” about it also since I returned from Guyana earlier this week after an 8 year absence, went crazy at the chance to eat the food of my homeland and added to that, signed a deal to write a weekly column: Tastes Like Home.

    8. Cynthia on January 7th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
  8. My goodness…you should’ve seen my first reaction to authentic Indian food. I was quite glad that our food wasn’t.

    It would have been rather ridiculous of any of us to claim Trini food is the only place to get authentic Indian cuisine. We’d've been a laughing stock! And if you didn’t laugh in the faces of these claimants then that’s not our fault.

    I can’t help it if I can’t eat the food in my sister’s Guyanese household. Nobody else has really invited me to eat by them.

    And we get snickered at for being Trini and are still polite so.

    9. Lilandra on January 7th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
  9. Hi Cynthia
    As a budding Food Writer and perhaps critic as well ( these do go hand in hand eventually) I am disappointed by your attack on Trinis.
    After re- reading Chennette’s blog , I would continue to go to Guyana for the gold and diamonds anyday in preference to their food. And I like Guyana’s food very much especially the pepper pot and the blackeye cookup with chicken foot and not forgetting the egg balls by M and M cafe by the Demarara Bridge.
    Take care and all the best with
    your weekly column , Tastes Like Home.

    10. mom on January 7th, 2007 at 7:02 pm
  10. 11. Lilandra on January 8th, 2007 at 1:54 am
  11. 12. Lilandra on January 8th, 2007 at 1:55 am
  12. tell cynthia to hash it out with shelliza… i mean really… you showing your own prejudice coming in here with a self-admitted chip on your shoulder then accusing chennette of claiming things she never did. just laugh at our stupidity and move on. we’re triniz we ain’t go mind. no need to get hott up at someone you don’t know from adam. you gonna be a food writer but gonna jump down someone’s throat for expressing an opinion.. oh the irony. live and let live man, not everyone is going to have fond memories of what you grew up on. not everyone is going to like it, and some people are actually gonna say so. that’s life.

    people feel free to say tons of negative things to triniz faces around the caribbean and we do a damn good job of bearing it with grace. i even hear americans saying how roti needs cheese and how our sodas and beers are utter crap. think i’m gonna vex up? i think they’re idiots. i laugh. i move on. if you were truly confident in your cuisine you’da had a good laugh at chennette’s post and moved on. nice photo tho. keep smilin’ and seriously… it’s not serious.

    13. The TriniGourmet on January 8th, 2007 at 2:29 am
  13. and how Indian reach up in this discourse?

    14. The TriniGourmet on January 8th, 2007 at 2:32 am
  14. lilandra – bussin’ people filez AGAIN?:)

    15. The TriniGourmet on January 8th, 2007 at 2:35 am
  15. (1) my roommate said pelau tasted great but…but…the meat had bones in it. It would’ve been better if it had no bones because she wasn’t expecting any bones because her mother cooks boneless…or something…

    ::jaw drops::

    thankfully some people in the lab understood about flavour and other people understood about chicken comes with bones

    (2) I didn’t bring it up!

    (3) I was curious and Chennette already sell me out! :p

    16. Lilandra on January 8th, 2007 at 2:55 am
  16. oh the lolz! oh the lolz!

    boneless pelau man… well i done seen a pelau made with tofu… yes tofu… did make me curious though… wonder if yuh could give it a good browning treatment :P

    17. The TriniGourmet on January 8th, 2007 at 2:59 am
  17. well maybe…a harder tofu?
    but it might get tough

    yes boneless
    she even said okay if her mom cooked with bones, she’d debone after…??
    but she is still my friend and one day might find her way to this blog…if she hasn’t already :-)
    (i think when i left they hoped my blog might be like this but i knew they were dreaming…me cook? on my own??)

    18. Lilandra on January 8th, 2007 at 3:28 am
  18. wait, haven’t you had vegetarian pelau? rice and peas and carrots?

    19. Lilandra on January 8th, 2007 at 3:29 am
  19. isn’t that just cookup rice? :P lolz

    20. The TriniGourmet on January 8th, 2007 at 3:32 am
  20. No! Guyanese have cookup. We have pelau!

    I showed mom your post. She posted too…but it’s stuck in moderation!

    21. Lilandra on January 8th, 2007 at 4:46 am
  21. @Cynthia – I am glad you understand the allure of home food :-) and I realise the end of this post may seem harsh, but seriously, that was the extent of my knowledge of Guyanese food after a few months and the only thing about Guyanese food I had heard BEFORE arriving was pepperpot, and maybe that they had different chowmein. Even Guyanese food places in Miami and Canada sell Trini doubles and roti (i.e. dhalpuri wrapped around curry) when in Guyana I have had Guyanese refuse to eat puri with curry, as “that’s not roti, it’s puri! You eat that with sour!”

    Glad my sis found your blog…hope you can make an impact on Guyanese food. I am still Trini though :D

    22. chennette on January 8th, 2007 at 6:58 am
  22. @ trinigourmet , you voiced and wrote just how I felt when I read the citicisms of trinis and our insularity. But after praying the evening pray I was more kind and wrote a very sober post of how I felt. But thanks anyway.

    23. mom on January 8th, 2007 at 8:19 am
  23. lilandra – :)

    mom – hi! :)

    24. The TriniGourmet on January 8th, 2007 at 9:05 am
  24. chennette – you moderatin’ yuh mommy? fuh shame :D

    25. The TriniGourmet on January 8th, 2007 at 9:06 am
  25. i know
    hmph!!!

    26. Lilandra on January 8th, 2007 at 9:19 am
  26. made mommy cry thinking, “so nobody see my post?”

    27. Lilandra on January 8th, 2007 at 9:20 am
  27. I have it set to moderate for first-timers. Anybody could be called Mom…and spam me. :-P
    I on the road you know…things take time!

    28. chennette on January 8th, 2007 at 10:14 am
  28. hehe i have the same setting chennette doh stress :D hehehe

    29. The TriniGourmet on January 8th, 2007 at 10:34 am
  29. You mean you think mom isn’t really mom?
    Wait til mom hears!

    Also, you could make me an admin of your blog to approve posts while you travelling…

    ::whistles innocently::

    30. Lilandra on January 8th, 2007 at 3:27 pm
  30. @lilandra
    yeah that sounds like a good try especially as these days we cannot keep up with her travels and which airport lounge she might be attending a meeting.

    31. mom on January 8th, 2007 at 3:41 pm
  31. lilandra can almost taste the power :D just one more mode of file bussin’ powerz and the world will be herrrrz … nay, the UNIVERSE!! muahahahaahahaa

    32. The TriniGourmet on January 8th, 2007 at 5:03 pm
  32. POWER!

    33. Lilandra on January 8th, 2007 at 6:30 pm
  33. I made pelau a few times from boneless chicken breast, and it only tastes really good hot – the flavour just isn’t there.

    34. chennette on January 8th, 2007 at 11:56 pm
  34. When it comes to food we all believe that what we are accustomed to is superior because what we grew up eating is the standard. To a Guyanese who’s lived a few years in TT(also lived in North America and Latin America and travelled extensively) Chenette’s vivid reflections are hilarious for their reminiscences and spot-on. Neither Guyanese nor TT food is superior to each other, they’re just different. Each of us have fabulous food that the other doesn’t-doubles and pastel/ metem and pepperpot.The taste is individual indeed. I prefer curry with bandania but other family members who lived in TT can’t stand the stuff. Guyana has more variety-Amazonian meals, more fresh seafood and wild meats. In Trinidad, the food at some Indian events might be more elaborate due to a higher standard of living and there are some differences-we seldom have mango or channa curry; to my taste both countries’ foods are fabulous and if there’s an edge TT has it. Our two countries have the best food in the world. Period. They don’t come for it because they don’t know. Just two things. First: Eating ketchup with Indian food is not the practice in Guyana. Second:Buss up shot better than paratha? Don’t mamaguy! Buss up is too broken up and clumpy to fold around the curry properly.

    35. GT fella on January 14th, 2007 at 12:19 am
  35. Hi GT Fella, thanks for visiting :-)

    Ok, since you appreciate bandhania I can forgive you for thinking that ‘buss-up-shut’ is clumpy. Good buss-up-shut is actually flaky paratha – we call them by the same name because they are supposed to be the same thing. I think what you generally refer to as just “roti” in Guyana is usually similar to our paratha, just not bussed-up.

    But I do concede that I have been to many many weddings where the paratha is clumpy and in bits, but I don’t accept that as the proper product. So we don’t differ there.

    And I have to also concede that I am not sure I have seen people eat curry with ketchup, but I have seen it eaten with fry rice, cookup and salad, all of which were odd to me :-)

    36. chennette on January 14th, 2007 at 12:27 am
  36. Yesterday (or day before yesterday) we bought pizza and I must admit I was craving mustard on it for some reason.

    It tasted good.
    Your left over pieces were hopefully not contaminated.

    37. Lilandra on January 14th, 2007 at 2:23 am
  37. I just stumbled on to this discussion in my quest to find the differences between Indian and Guyanese cuisine. I am writing a book and needed to hear some real talk about the food. I must say I have learned so much about the food, the culture…Interesting to note the bits of tension between Guyanese and Trinis about who is more authentic. By authentic I guess you must mean more Indian. I am very interested in hearing about how some of your food evolved from Indian food. Your roti (chappati, to me) taste a bit different than mine. Also your curries, I have never had your pepperpot, but I must if I want to include a Guyanese character in my book. I am also interested in the English you use. It’s very colorful and bright sounding, I wish I could write it. The diaspora of Indians to Guyana, Trinidad, East Africa, UK, and USA and then the mix of those cultures with thier new adopted ones, have all created such a vast variety of foods, words and cultures. I am also interested in discussing the lack of ties to India. Indians from USA are still quite rooted to India, but in Kenya and Guyana not so much. All comments would be helpful in my research.

    38. An Indian on January 28th, 2007 at 9:53 pm
  38. Sorry, one more thing! I was also wondering if T&T and Guyanese wear the Indian sari or salwar keemez at all. Do you wear them when you marry or attend marriages?

    39. An Indian on January 28th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
  39. Hello Indian and welcome. Will reply longer to your post, but just wanted to point out one thing. Indians came to Trinidad and Guyana as early as the 1850s as indentured labourers…so most of us have been here several generations. I would guess most Indians in the US are fairly recent immigrants, with direct ties to their homeland. For example, my great grandfather was born in Trinidad in the to the end of the 19th century. I don’t know where in India most of my ancestors came from – I am Trini, of mostly Indian descent, but not Indian in that sense. Since my parents’ generation, our language has been English. We may use terms and expressions from Hindi or Urdu, but it was my grandparents who would have spoken it as their primary or main secondary language.

    Given this separation of time, I am always wary of calling something Indian. And I never argue about authenticity of food as more “Indian” or not. I only for sure how it is in Trinidad and Tobago – authentically Trini. But I too am fascinated by the evolution of foods.

    40. chennette on January 29th, 2007 at 12:40 pm
  40. Hi Chennette,
    Thanks for your reply. I do know the history of Indian diaspora, as I have done extensive research for writing, but I am less interested in the formal history and more of the informal history that is being made even on these blogs.

    For instance, my question about your reference to food authenticity is in relation to a discussion on your blog. from a Guyanese “You know one of the things that really gets me ticked off about Trinis especially at it relates to Guyana and anything Indian, especially where the food is concerned? It is that you all feel that you do everything better than everyone; you all know better than anyone and Trinidad is the only place in the Caribbean where there is authenticity. It just smacks of insular arrogance.” Of course you handled the comment with grace, but I am interested in why she chose the word “Indian?” as standard to compare to?

    I understand very well, living in the USA about the melding in of cultures and foods. That being said, the US cannot really claim too many things as original American food. It is a land of immigrants, and with the immigration came the various cultures and foods. English, French, Italian, German, Polish, Chinese, Indian, Mexican…all these foods have found a place on most American tables. BUT we do not call them American foods. Perhaps some of the more European food has become American, but still most of my American freinds who cook Irish foods still call them by name. In T&T and Guyana the same thing has happened. Yes, your food has changed a bit and become something you find comforting and wholesome, but as immigrants your ancestors brought those foods from the subcontinent of South Asia. Your names are different, Cookup vs Paluo, and even the forms may take on some changes, but the food is esentially still South Asian. It is not something that was organic to the area of T&T or Guyana.

    I guess I am very interested in your comment about what can be called as you say, “authentically Trini” What would that be? Or can it really be? Authentically Trini to me would be something that exsisted before the coming of immigrants, and therefore before the coming of inorganic elements. In the USA the only authentic “American food” is Native American. Modern “american” food might be hot dogs, apple pie, lemonade, hamburgers.

    41. An Indian on January 29th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
  41. I didn’t think you were unaware of the history, but thought that the length of time Indians have been in this area would be one of the main reasons there is the “lack of ties” you referred to in your original comment. Because this is a distinct difference in the history of Indian presence here as opposed to the US Indian presence.

    As for the authenticity question – that comment you refer to puzzled me as well, because I didn’t think Trinis claimed anything was more Indian than the next. I know things are Indian in origin and very similar, even the same as existing foods in India (I just am not personally familiar with the huge Indian subcontinent and all its foods, although interested). However, the commenter may have used “Indian” as a point of reference because that is one of the similarities between Guyana and T&T, particularly as opposed to the other Caribbean nations (except Suriname). We have significant Indian presence in population and culture and I guess there are always comparisons on that aspect of our cultures.

    As for authentically Trini, a fellow Trini food blogger started a discussion recently about when does Chinese food become “ours”. It raises some of the same issue and I don’t think it can easily be resolved. But I do know that I don’t agree that the only authentic Trini food must be food before the coming of immigrants. Trinidad and Tobago is created and shaped by those immigrants and whether our foods are rooted way down in South Asian or African methods and ingredients does not mean these meals will forever be classified as such. I am not saying disregard the roots, but let’s look at doubles or roti. Even if it grew out of the Indo-Trinidadian community, is it made that way in India? Parts may be, but is it served and seasoned the same way? Is it called by the same name?

    If we look at people instead of food – I don’t think I can ever say I am Indian, without qualifiying that I am Trini, whose ancestors came mostly from India 4 generations ago. I think at some point with the food there has to be a departure point from the origin. If we only classify national food as the food of the indigenous peoples, T&T is in a real bind, considering we only have a very very small Carib population left, and no Arawak. And these peoples traveled among the islands anyway, so how would you know what was Trini? So T&T now today, as with the US, is much more than just the indigenous peoples and their culture. I don’t think it’s so easy to draw lines. But the topic is infinitely interesting. As I said before the only thing I can be sure of is what is done in T&T – and that’s what I meant by authentically Trini, regardless of the origin.

    42. chennette on January 29th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
  42. Thanks for your insight! Food changes when it leaves its original place, as you stated. When I went to Italy, I found the pizza and pasta very different than what they had become in North America. Not worse or better, just different. But still I know the roots of Pizza and pasta come from Italy. It’s not an American food persay.

    But reading these blogs have helped me so much. I do thank you for your kind replies. Maybe I will try ketchup, mustard or mayo on my next pizza.

    Can you or anyone reading answer this question for me? Do the Trinis mix socially with other people groups? In the sense is it accepted within the Trini community for intermarriage between groups? Also do Carib of Indian origin dress in traditional Indian clothing for festivals or marriages?

    43. An Indian on January 29th, 2007 at 5:04 pm
  43. what time is usuall dinner at?

    44. Michael on October 2nd, 2007 at 7:04 pm

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